Chopin's 4 Ballades

by **PianistSk8er** » 26 Aug 2004, 08:49

How so? It's very virtuosic and passionate, I think it's a very nice ending.

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by **Comme_le_Vent** » 26 Aug 2004, 08:53

well, its wierd

im talkin about the part where it just stands still and scales fly up, its just a bit wierd...

ok yeah its good, but it should be better

IMO chopin's climaxes arent as riveting as liszt's and alkan's

by **virtuoso_735** » 26 Aug 2004, 14:34

Comme_le_Vent wrote:well, its wierd

im talkin about the part where it just stands still and scales fly up, its just a bit wierd...

ok yeah its good, but it should be better

IMO chopin's climaxes arent as riveting as liszt's and alkan's

The scales and octaves at the end, though a bit incongruous, ends the piece very well: on a note of despair and despondency, which fits the overall mood of the piece.

Chopin's climaxes are certainly different than Liszt's and Alkans in the way that they are not as vulgar or opening virtuostic.

by **WinterWind_23** » 26 Aug 2004, 15:01

Comme_le_Vent wrote:IMO - no1's ending spoils it a bit 4 me

I don't think it does.

The coda gives it a good ending.

by **Amnesia** » 26 Aug 2004, 17:12

I also like the ending. I think it's very original

by **WinterWind_23** » 26 Aug 2004, 17:32

Amnesia wrote:I also like the ending. I think it's very original

It's original, yet not very innovative. It is a simple G melodic scale, used geniously. He brings back the theme in it too. So it concludes the entire piece well.

by **Amnesia** » 26 Aug 2004, 19:20

And the cromatic scale in octaves creates a wonderful climax right at the end of the piece

by **virtuoso_735** » 26 Aug 2004, 21:07

Amnesia wrote:And the cromatic scale in octaves creates a wonderful climax right at the end of the piece

The octaves are easy; yet very impressive. :wink:

I can't play any of the ballades except a few measures of the no.1

by **Colin** » 27 Aug 2004, 00:17

I never get sick of talking about the Ballades. I've played all four, though none very well (I get sick of them after a while), and the fourth is by far my favorite. No other even compares. But I love all of them.

by **Comme_le_Vent** » 27 Aug 2004, 04:48

you never get sick of them...

yet you get sick of them after a while....

comedic genius!!!!

by **Comme_le_Vent** » 27 Aug 2004, 04:49

virtuoso_735 wrote:Chopin's climaxes are certainly different than Liszt's and Alkans in the way that they are not as vulgar or opening virtuostic.

translation = not as GOOD

by **Colin** » 27 Aug 2004, 11:30

Comme_le_Vent wrote:you never get sick of them...

yet you get sick of them after a while....

comedic genius!!!!

Read more closely.

I said I don't get sick of TALKING about them. I really don't get sick of listening to them, either, just playing them when I do so too often.

by **WinterWind_23** » 27 Aug 2004, 14:41

Comme_le_Vent wrote:
virtuoso_735 wrote:Chopin's climaxes are certainly different than Liszt's and Alkans in the way that they are not as vulgar or opening virtuostic.

translation = not as GOOD

Vulgar and loud doesn't always translate into good. I enjoy Chopin's climax even more than the loud bombastic Alkan ones. It's much more meaningful and subdued, not overdone. Alkans music is replete with extraneous vulgar climaxes. It's not my taste.

by **virtuoso_735** » 30 Aug 2004, 21:03

That's true. Chopin's climaxes are more of the subtle, beautiful, and complete type. Liszt's, and Alkans, while I like them a lot for their exhilaration and scintillating quality, doesn't really satisfy in the same way as Chopin's music. All the ballades have that exemplary Chopin climax.

by **WinterWind_23** » 02 Sep 2004, 21:52

Alkan is sometimes gratuitous, IMO.

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