Fragments

by **Jeliness2** » 27 Oct 2004, 21:11

I find it cool to see different popular pieces taking fragmental elements from pieces by Bach. In a performance of Beethoven's Symphony no.5 i saw a week ago, I noticed how frequently Bach used the dot-dot-dot-dash motive as beethoven used. In bach's prelude no.1 in C major WTC II, the motive is repeated a gazillion times. I just found this cool. :yay:

by **TheRach** » 27 Oct 2004, 21:16

I'm pretty sure this is something in math called "Group Theory." It was in Chang's book.

by **Max** » 28 Oct 2004, 03:29

Yeah, the 5-5-5-3 pattern. The whole 3 repeated notes and a surprise note (the 3)

by **Jackson** » 30 Oct 2004, 00:08

What is a dot-dot-dot-dash or a 3-3-3-5?

by **Jeliness2** » 30 Oct 2004, 13:38

Jackson, I meant as in rhythm w/ the dot-dot-dot-dash thing. But 5-5-5-3 means the note sequence.

by **Jackson** » 31 Oct 2004, 11:51

Oh articulation you mean? (staccato-staccato-staccato-tenuto?)

by **Max** » 31 Oct 2004, 15:30

No in terms of scales.

by **nerd** » 31 Oct 2004, 17:59

dot-dot-dot-dash = staccato-staccato-staccato-tenuto?
5-5-5-3 = (eg.) G-G-G-E?

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by **Jeliness2** » 01 Nov 2004, 20:22

right.

except its g-g-g-e-FLAT

by **Philip Daniel** » 01 Nov 2004, 20:50

This really does belong in general music, since it not only applies to the music of Bach and the baroque era but to all music in general.

(Moved)

by **Jeliness2** » 01 Nov 2004, 23:05

you like doing that, eh?

by **Max** » 02 Nov 2004, 12:04

Philip Daniel wrote:This really does belong in general music, since it not only applies to the music of Bach and the baroque era but to all music in general.
(Moved)

Definatly, as we were talking about Beethoven then.

I noticed in Haydns 'Fifths' String quartet there are lots of similar patterns rearranged mathmatically.

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